Each Thursday, proper right here at FightHype.com, boxing followers collect round my bulbous, bulging sack and marvel on the magnificent load of gooey, salty reality that I name into action– and this Thursday is not any completely different. This week, now we have feedback/questions concerning Canelo, Benavidez, Golden Boy vs. King Ry, Berlanga, Abilities Problem Promotions, and the way forward for 140.
Canelo, at what level does it change into ducking?
Hey Paul,
Simply need your opinion on the subject of avoidance and ducking. As referenced in my topic line, at what level does it change into ducking? I am of the opinion that the majority skilled prize fighters usually are not afraid of each other, particularly if they’re in the identical weight class. I’ve seen fighters noticeably shook on struggle night time (Spinks-Tyson & Michael Grant-Lennox Lewis). However, I feel more often than not the enterprise facet of issues get in the best way. On the flip facet, I feel some fighters, whatever the enterprise, are keen to place it on the road for his or her legacy.
My query actually stems from the continued Canelo-Benavidez drama. I discover it odd that Benavidez will not be being talked about or thought-about by staff Alvarez. At the least not publicly. I heard a few of Canelo’s causes, “Not need to struggle one other Mexican,” “He hasn’t fought anybody,” “He brings nothing to the desk”, and so forth…
From every part I learn on varied web sites, followers are calling for this struggle. And what a good time for it to occur! Different fighters are stepping up and placing it on the road. However personally I have never heard something affordable from Canelo as to why this struggle will not be happening.
He (Canelo) talks about legacy, however he has unfinished enterprise at 168, and it is just going to worsen as a result of David Morrell is coming!
I simply really feel dangerous for these younger guys like Benavidez and Boots Ennis. If one of the best of the divisions usually are not keen to present you a chance, then how will you show your self? I assume by persevering with to struggle the following greatest out there till your time comes.
Regards,
– Reggie Cannon
Hey Reggie.
I’m not usually a “this man is ducking that man” individual. Boxing is a enterprise and I get that. Danger vs. reward is all the time a difficulty when opposition is being thought-about. Boxing won’t ever be a sport the place a real playoff-like system is used to get greatest vs. greatest fights.
I’m additionally not a Canelo hater. As a matter of truth, I’ve been accused of being a Canelo fan boy at instances.
In actuality, although, I simply name issues as I see them. I reward when acceptable and criticize when crucial. Within the specific case of Canelo Alvarez, proper now, it’s time to be crucial.
He’s the unified tremendous middleweight champ. David Benavidez is the universally acknowledged no. 1 contender. There may be NOBODY at 168 extra deserving of a title shot than Benavidez. I’m fairly positive that if a ballot have been taken of all boxing followers, there’d be no person they’d relatively see struggle Canelo proper now.
So, the one motive for Benavidez to not be Canelo’s subsequent struggle is danger vs. reward. Group Canelo is on the lookout for a safer struggle with equal to near-equal reward. That’s it. And, as such, this deserves criticism.
Alvarez is trying actual dangerous in the intervening time, particularly with Badou Jack revealing that Group Canelo tried to drag him down 20 lbs. for a cruierweight catchweight struggle and with them strolling by a Bivol rematch. The rumored Jermall Charlo struggle is respectable. However it’s not THE struggle at 168. Something apart from Benavidez is unacceptable.
Golden Boy vs. Ryan Garcia
Hello, Magno, hoping you and your loved ones are doing nice.
Primarily based on what has been reported concerning the Golden Boy vs Garcia lawsuit, I imagine now greater than ever that the Davis vs Garcia struggle occurred as a result of Ryan made it occur, GB wished no a part of it. Not solely did Ryan should adjust to all of the Davis staff calls for, but in addition needed to pay step apart cash to DAZN so the struggle might proceed, though in Garcia’s contract with GB he was not unique to DAZN. GB can also be alleging of their lawsuit that Ryan’s supervisor is the one who’s reaching out to different promoters to deteriorate the relation between GB and Ryan. GB was additionally in opposition to the rehydration clause.
If this feud prices GB to lose one other excessive caliber worthwhile fighter from their roster, I might extremely advocate GB to hunt a greater contract with DAZN because it has made them lose Canelo and Ryan, their solely two money cows in lower than 3 years. Or their new fighters higher be cautious as GB would possibly attempt to tie them completely to DAZN.
– At. Benjamín from PR
Hey Benjamin.
Golden Boy’s TV cope with DAZN is puzzling and, clearly, self-defeating. I get them wanting to maintain their guys payment and capable of struggle on different networks, particularly since, reportedly, their cope with DAZN is nearer to being a day-by-day factor than a long-term binding contract. What I don’t get, although, is why DAZN lets Golden Boy do enterprise with them like that, in an association the place all the firm’s greatest property aren’t actually tied to the community. Nicely, I assume I DO get it. DAZN is dumb and/or not that severe about their dedication to boxing. However it nonetheless boggles the thoughts. It’s additionally thoughts boggling how, given this association, Golden Boy isn’t higher about being sincere and upfront with each the fighters and the community.
At any fee, I feel Garcia finds his solution to freedom and Golden Boy takes one other L, thanks, in nice half, to Oscar De La Hoya’s lack of impulse management. I wrote extra about this example on this previous Monday’s Notes from the Boxing Underground column.
Berlanga, Canelo, 140, Abilities Problem Promotions
Hello Paul
Right now, I’m rooting badly for Jason Quigley as a result of I refuse to observe Berlanga in opposition to Canelo.
Berlanga appeared to be on the trail of one thing large, however from what I see he fell in love along with his energy and the truth that he has not matured sufficient stalled his profession large time. I anticipate him to care for Quigley as a result of I think about him a gatekeeper, however hopefully he complicates issues for him with a view to get him out of Canelo’s path.
So far as Canelo, I feel the media is being very aggressive with him, as individuals hold tweeting and writing articles about him combating x, y and z however he’s clearly away at Milan having fun with time without work from boxing, so you cannot decide him based mostly on this truth. Then once more, if it seems he’s certainly in conversations about this supposedly negotiations with Jack and Charlo I feel he’s definitively ducking Benavidez.
So what to make out of the situation of 140 kilos? I used to be below the impression that Prograis was the highest canine as a result of he removed Chon Zepeda in model, however his efficiency from Saturday makes me imagine he could be on the decline (advised by his age as effectively). So it appears that evidently the best evaluation right here is that the highest canines of the earlier period are on their approach out (Prograis, Ramirez, Taylor, Zepeda) and the brand new ones are coming in (Haney, Ryan, Rolly, Tank, Teofimo).
Lastly, what’s your tackle this Abilities Arabic promotional firm doubtlessly signing all of those fighters? it appears they obtained the cash, however I’ve seen this sample repeat at the very least over the past 10 years. SMS (50 cent) got here to the game and he had a great quantity of prize fighters signing with him solely to vanish quickly, RockNation Sports activities, Schaeffer and so forth. Lets see what comes out of this one
Finest Regards
– Miguel
Hey Miguel.
I’ll sort out these so as.
I prefer to take pokes at Eddie Hearn, however I perceive his logic in signing Berlanga. If they’ll construct him up, Hearn will get one other fats Canelo payday from sacrificing one other of his fighters on the altar of Alvarez. The issue is that Berlanga could also be knocked off earlier than he might be constructed up as a reputable B-side for Canelo. The child is borderline delusional about the place he’s as each a fighter and as an attraction. He’s in for a impolite awakening. I don’t assume Quigley is that man to bust up the plans, however Berlanga has deteriorated to such a level that it’s attainable.
Canelo must struggle Benavidez subsequent. Interval. I made my case within the earlier response. Alvarez is entitled to a trip, but when offers and proposals are being made in his title whereas he’s away, then it’s truthful sport to criticize him.
The subsequent wave is certainly taking on at 140. Prograis is an excellent fighter, however he’s not THAT man, if you understand what I imply. I’m keen to chalk up final Saturday’s efficiency as a foul night time in a foul types matchup. It occurs. However, nonetheless, I don’t see him beating a youthful, extra dynamic man like Teofimo, Haney, or Tank. The opposite earlier high guys at 140 didn’t do an entire lot for me of their primes and do even much less for me now. 140 belongs to the youth. Not solely Teofimo, Haney, and Tank, but in addition Subriel Matias, Gary Antuanne Russell, and so forth.
I’ve a troublesome time seeing any Saudi firm with plans of scooping up fighters for bouts in Saudi Arabia (I’m assuming that’s what Ability Problem Promotions is aiming for) getting any traction within the American scene. There are only a lot of logistics points concerned in such a challenge, not the least of which is the time distinction, which might harm TV rankings within the US.
However even when Abilities plans on working within the US, it takes greater than having a number of cash to succeed. The boxing market is a bizarre one and a troublesome one to navigate. Realizing the boxing tradition is crucial. That’s why outsiders have a troublesome time working their approach into the combo. If Abilities provides it a go, they’ll make some headlines, make a choose few fighters some huge cash, however, probably, fail and return to being an organization operating reveals out of their dwelling space.
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