This previous week, I mentioned the rumors and recommendations that the Miami Dolphins ought to think about signing former gamers Xavien Howard and Ryan Tannehill. I then requested the next question-
Would you like signing both Howard or Tannehill and even a kind of two? If sure, why? If not, why?
Beneath are a few of your ideas and answers-
Mrperson26 thinks the thought of bringing X again, however as a security, is perhaps the best way to go. It is not an concept that I had considered, but it surely’s additionally not the worst concept I’ve seen as of late!
One factor I don’t perceive is why there isn’t any dialogue of Xavien being introduced again as a security. It’s a pure transition for corners who’re good cowl guys and strong tacklers – rod woodson, Charles Woodson, and aeneas Williams all did it later of their careers.
I agree that the time was ripe to maneuver on from X as a nook, but when Weaver’s system employs three safeties usually, I feel X’s ball abilities and understanding of coverages would lend themselves effectively to security play, and the quickness he has misplaced over the previous couple years wouldn’t be as a lot of an element both.
Redwood_ doesn’t appear down with both!
No and No. Subsequent.
PhinstantReaction appears to consider that Tannehill is an all-around higher QB than Tua.
Not smart to usher in a better, extra skilled and extra gifted backup at QB should you’re attempting to pressure your starter to be higher than he’s
21Dave doesn’t sound like he may have Howard over for dinner any time quickly!
F%$Okay X with a stick and fervour!!
Tannehill can’t throw the lengthy ball!!! Hahahha
Though we may proceed to #BlameTannehill!!
Spok507 is considerably break up on the query…
I’d take a cross on X. He made it very clear, his ego is way greater than the staff desires to take care of. He’s now not a prime nook (or somebody would’ve picked him up on not less than a one-year deal by now) and I doubt he has abruptly modified his views to just accept a lesser rol and so much much less cash. I simply suppose he’d be an issue. Sorry X, however you sort of wore out your welcome along with your angle and calls for.
As for RT17… I don’t know. On one hand, I do suppose he’d be an improve kind White, who I by no means believed would be capable of lead this staff if he needed to. He’s a enjoyable story and straightforward to root for, however simply doesn’t have the expertise to be a beginning QB if known as upon. Tannehill has the expertise, however I’m unsure his recreation works with McDaniel’s offense. Whereas he’d in all probability love throwing to our receivers, is he fast sufficient? I do know he’s in all probability smarter than Tua, however I’m unsure he can throw as fast, whereas I consider Tua having to react fast as an alternative of suppose helps him play higher. However, as I stated earlier than, Tanny could be an improve to White. However I’d moderately see the place Skylar is at this level and if he’s developed sufficient to be QB2. He has the very best arm of the three.
Thomas23059 is on board with X coming again and likewise changing him to security however is every kind of out on Tannehill.
Name me loopy, go forward you recognize you need to.
Howard – would like to see this occur. See if possibly he could make the conversion to security like Rod Woodson did. Baltimore used a number of DBs, so somebody nearly as good as Howard nonetheless is ought to get loads of enjoying time. They may in all probability promote him on a decrease value deal to transform to security with the concept if he excels it units him up for yet one more massive payday.
Tannehill – thanks for the recollections, however no thanks. Backside line, if Tua goes down, Miami might be toast. But when I’ve to select between Tannehill and Mike White, I’m taking White. Tannehill threw for over 4000 yards twice in his profession, and his finest seasons got here with a younger Derrick Henry. Mike White has performed most of an NFL recreation 7 occasions, and in these 7 video games he has over 2000 yards. So his yards per recreation, should you exclude the video games the place he didn’t play a lot, works out to a 4000 yard season. He throws far too many interceptions, however not less than he can transfer the ball by way of the air.
TheRoo1 is a no on each however with vastly completely different reasoning.
So, how a lot of the gross overpayment is Howard providing to present again?
At this level, after his mid contract wage stunt, he must be reminded that “what’s good for the goose, is nice for the gander”.
As to Tanny, I’ve at all times thought he obtained a uncooked deal. Poor assist, and in Tennessee he did enhance. He has been a category act as an individual, and could be a step up from White.
However, bringing him again will begin frequent requires QB substitutions. Tua naysayers will immediately change into Tanny lovers, and name for him loudly. With that in thoughts, I’d be a no vote on Tanny.
acdc1a sees Tannehill as a prime backup if introduced again however doesn’t see Howard taking a reasonably small contract from the Phins.
Tannehill is immediately one of many prime 5 backup quarterbacks within the league. X isn’t going to take rubbish cash. He retires earlier than that occurs.
Call_for_the_Priest’77 is just not towards bringing Howard again and isn’t bought on the concept he wouldn’t once more begin for the Phins if he was, in reality, added to this roster. Would even be open to Tannehill coming again…
I like the thought of X coming again to the staff however solely on a staff pleasant contract after all. X’s acceptance of such would present a stark turning level in his angle in direction of cash. Prior to now he has positioned himself effectively forward of the staff’s concerns. Not likely a judgement towards X, simply extra of a reality. It’s what it’s and it’s hardly an unique angle simply to him. And naturally, the larger level right here could be his acceptance of a staff weighted deal. Even his waffling “(X) has closed the door on returning to Miami” to his now apparently leaving that door open, may be hushed by this alteration in angle.
I might disagree that outright, he wouldn’t be a starter on the staff. I’m not saying he could be one, simply that it is senseless to conclude with certainty that he couldn’t line up reverse his buddy from final 12 months as soon as once more. Including X to the aggressive mixture of Fuller, Smith, Kohu, Apple and others makes good sense to me if he’s going to be on this staff. If we had a clone of Jalen Ramsey to play reverse his true self that will be completely different. Nevertheless, I’m nowhere close to able to endorse any of our different guys as being anyplace close to his calibre.
I additionally like the thought of attempting him in a security position like a few of you’ve gotten talked about under. Maybe a hybrid security / nook / LB position much like what Eric Rowe did for us a couple of years in the past.
Have been it not for cap causes, I don’t suppose we ever would have dropped X. I feel he nonetheless is an efficient participant who must be mightily motivated to point out the league he nonetheless has the products – if he nonetheless has the products! Maybe he’s now not the boldface sort ‘X’ however nonetheless a man who may assist the staff and possibly extra so than we expect.
I’m typically skeptical about retreads who had a major keep their first time with the staff. I can’t consider a single case of this nature the place such a participant has flourished to any significance. In fact in Tannehill’s case, we wouldn’t be saddling him with the burden of the staff once more. And will he play behind our group of (wholesome) OL starters, I don’t suppose he will probably be passing blood in reduction anymore (for these new to the staff or possessing brief recollections, Tannehill was sacked, pressured and hit a lot all through his Dolphins tenure that this actually occurred greater than as soon as. Some crash take a look at dummies had it higher than poor RT!).
We would want to know his angle after all. Would he nonetheless have the starvation and fervour that noticed him by way of these punishing years, however now as an advisor / cheerguy from the bench? May he step in chilly for the primary time as a pre-defined QB2? And okay, what the hell, has he nonetheless obtained the products to do one thing?
I feel he in all probability does have some items left. I’m skeptical nonetheless that he would need to come again. I feel he would like a scenario the place he may put himself into the combination for a beginning job as his profession alternatives are diminishing quickly. Miami is now not that actuality for him. In truth, if he has reached the bodily and or psychological level the place he would think about a nearly outright QB2 position, I must depend that towards him within the motivational division. He would make sure to seek out some aggressive scenario that will see him get extra money than a complacent QB2 position in Miami, so that may’t be an element.
That apart, if he expresses a want to play right here and is cool with a pleasant staff quantity, I might drop Mike White in a rush to select up RT once more. I don’t suppose it’s going to occur however it will be fascinating, good for Tua and fairly encouraging for the followers and staff.
Yarganaught is down with each if the value is true!
I’d be in favor of signing each gamers… offered the value was proper they usually knew their position as back-up. Moreover, it’d give me one other probability to put on my Tannehill jerseys.
SuperG! says X is a no go whereas being in on Tannehill on the identical worth as White.
If I have been Grier, I’d inform X to go kick rocks. As for RT17, if he’d be keen to just accept Mike White cash, then signal him up as he’d be an on the spot improve on the backup place.
Miami7 is up within the air about Howard whereas being in on the Tannehill concept.
I simply don’t suppose ‘X’ has a complete lotta curiosity in hitting/tackling a lot (may very well be flawed). I might suppose ‘protection smart’ he’d be fairly effectively suited at this level of his bodily maturation to play S, however I’d should dig a little bit deeper (GII/Earl?), which I’m not so inclined, to truly see/decide whether or not I feel he’d thrive in a extra bodily position? Face worth – I don’t suppose he cares to stay his nostril in and play extra of a ‘hitters/physicality’ position?
Tannehill I do suppose would really be a sound ‘get’. However, there once more, I haven’t actually seen sufficient of Mike White to truthfully have a great opinion on what he brings to the desk. Tannehill could be advantageous in a caretakers position for a couple of video games right here or there. IMO
Luvs2drnk2.0 is almost certainly appropriate on each, particularly Tannehill who’s going to be searching for someplace that he can seemingly change into the starter.
I’d should cross on each, primarily as a result of each are seemingly searching for extra money than we’d be keen to pay. Each are seemingly ready for June 1st to roll round when groups may have extra cash to signal them. X will seemingly signal with a contender to supply depth and chase that ring (I’d enterprise KC, BAL, PHI, SF as seemingly spots). Tanny in all probability nonetheless desires to begin and can need to go to a staff with an getting old veteran (Jets, Rams, SEA) or has a questionable starter (Saints, NYG, CAR, LV) that would give him an opportunity to begin and earn one final massive contract.
Dolfriend appears open to each!
TH > White
X as third Security?
carry again the whalers says sure on Ryan and no on Xavien.
I don’t thoughts the tanne concept, however would moderately give a younger humgry cb reps than x at this level. X will signal some place else, everybody ready till june…
MiamiSkye desires to attend and see with White earlier than changing him.
Even when X performs for the league minimal, he would nonetheless earn more money than ramsay with all of the lifeless cash. (Except that cash is void, I’m not a contract professional)
Tannehill is an possibility however I’d wish to see how white does this low season. I’m unsure it’s price one other 1.7 lifeless for somebody who is aware of the playbook and staff chemistry effectively. Hopefully we by no means see him apart from on the sidelines.
Dolfanjoe says persist with the present plan till one thing breaks!
Dam James that is an fascinating query of the Nite ! Howard i’d say no to except we happen accidents in camp early. We have to develop among the youthful gamers now we have now, and having them play preseason will allow us to perceive not solely what now we have trainable and gifted. However we don’t have to maintain and may nonetheless transfer on ! Even after cutdown day, if the scouts are doing there jobs gamers must be on the radar as enhancements. As for Tanny ? Would he be an enchancment over White ? I actually don’t have any gauge of how White has improved himself as we actually solely seen him play a little bit. The Man has expertise, and confirmed it a couple of occasions with the Jet’s. Tanny would value us how a lot ? I don’t know what number of occasions final 12 months i screamed at Tua to run for that first down after which slide ! Tanny at all times had the ball’s to do this ! Very skilled QB, works effectively working a run recreation offense ! And you’ll say he by no means had the weapons he would discover right here right now ! Have in mind, Tanny can very comfortably sit out the preseason and anticipate that inevitable harm to a principal backup on some staff. And he’ll in all probability receives a commission fairly handsomely. I assume what i’m saying is, don’t change something except you need to or compelled to. However that will come………………………By the best way, now we have a second spherical CB who wants to point out he belongs and is combating for a beginning spot !
daytonadolfan is a thumbs up on Tannehill and a thumbs down on X.
I’d be okay with Tannehill as a dependable backup however no to Howard . X is just too far down the diminished talent rabbit gap to swimsuit me . Given an honest “O” line Tua’ and or Tannehill may thrive with the weapons accessible
There was no consensus on this one however that’s a great factor so far as debates go. Additionally no consensus on the reasoning for bringing or not bringing again both participant. A few of the reasoning both approach was for positive issues that I had not considered. Thanks once more to everybody who took the time to reply our query of the day. We’ll return tomorrow night with one other query of the day put up.
