How do I do know Garcia-Haney was an enormous struggle for boxing followers? As a result of 99.9% of all of the emails I bought this week have been about Garcia-Haney. So, let’s simply deal with the “Dream’s” nightmare and the “King’s” coronation.
Garcia-Haney in a “Nut”shell
Hey Paul!
Nice tackle the Ryan Garcia struggle. I am not shocked by the end result of this struggle in any respect both. I do suppose Ryan has psychological points that he must cope with and people round him should pull him to the aspect. His pre-fight and post-fight antics have been nothing in need of somebody who misplaced their thoughts. Spreading conspiracy theories on-line and repeating them in the course of the publish struggle interview! What’s up with this child? Ingesting beer in the course of the weigh in, lacking weight, then acknowledging that he drank throughout coaching camp is indicators of somebody who lacks self-discipline and self management. He undoubtedly deserves reward for an amazing victory. However let’s not overlook the truth that Ryan Garcia has by no means been topped a champion in the course of the course of his skilled profession.
Conversely, Devin Haney has loads of pondering to do himself. Is the Daddy/Supervisor/Coach/Hypeman a very good factor? Perhaps he must rethink. There have been no technical instructions being given to Haney in the course of the course of the struggle. After the primary spherical, it was clear that Ryan’s left hook could be simple to land. Haney stood proper in entrance of him and tried to brawl. For somebody with Haney’s technical caliber and preventing model he fought out of his component. He might need been out to show that he was a killer/juggernaut/robust man. When the truth is all he needed to do was follow what bought him this far and he would’ve had a greater efficiency. If Haney goes to proceed his profession shifting ahead and get again to that prime canine degree, he must get again to the fundamentals, and struggle the beginner model that bought him right here. Nonetheless, it is time to transfer out of his father’s circle and chart his personal path as an expert. Should you have been a Father/Coach/Supervisor would you let your son struggle a naturally larger opponent who is available in 3.5 kilos over the burden restrict?– Na’-il Rahman
Hey Na’-il.
Thanks.
This concept that Ryan Garcia was simply “trolling” everybody, pretending to be nuts and missing in coaching self-discipline, is completely absurd. He seemed like canine shit on Saturday and, as I wrote on this Monday’s Notes from the Boxing Underground column: “he clearly wasn’t making ready doggedly and furtively between social media bull classes, fine-tuning his model and dealing on pacing, footwork, and conditioning.” He gained the struggle with a handful of huge, quick, however sloppy left fingers that Haney, for some cause (we’ll get into that later), couldn’t defend. Take away the knockdowns and this struggle was a draw, largely as a result of, even with Haney reeling, unsteady, and not sure, he nonetheless gave away large parts of the struggle by merely not figuring out what to do or methods to place himself. When it comes to expertise, Garcia is definitely regressing. So, once more, he wasn’t fooling the world into pondering he wasn’t taking coaching seriously– he really wasn’t.
Transferring ahead, count on extra of the identical from Garcia. What motive would there be for him to alter (apart from for the pleasure of mastering his craft…yeah, proper)? However that left hand is a hazard to anybody. Nonetheless, as Tank Davis proved, it may be nullified.
And that results in the subject of Devin Haney and what went fallacious.
He knew coming into this struggle that Garcia’s solely actual weapon was his left hand. His father/coach Invoice Haney knew that. Shit, EVERYBODY knew that. But, Devin seemed completely incapable of defending towards it. He appeared to don’t have any Plan A, no Plan B and nowhere to show to when he tasted his first little bit of adversity within the opening seconds of the struggle.
In my not-so-humble opinion, that’s on Invoice Haney. The increasingly more I concentrate (as a result of I have a tendency to not pay an excessive amount of consideration to hype males and people shouting, leaping up and down for the cameras), the extra I see a man whose ego has run amok, trampling over the nice work he’d executed in getting Devin to a sure degree. Invoice at all times appears out to show a point– and that time at all times appears to be “I am vital, please see me as vital.” I wouldn’t doubt it for one second if he was hyper-focused on having his son brutalize and cease Garcia, for the sake of delivering a message and topping Tank Davis. If that’s the case, that mindset undoubtedly labored towards every thing that made his son a hit as much as Saturday. And, yeah, I believe it was that very same hungry ego that permit his son get within the ring with somebody so wildly over the burden restrict, recent, who didn’t hassle to attempt to make weight. An actual coach would’ve, on the very least, used Ryan lacking weight as leverage, forcing him to attempt to dry out to the advantage of his personal fighter.
It wouldn’t be unwise for Devin to possibly break away from daddy and get somebody who’s all enterprise, who could make him a extra full fighter and never a well-trained automaton. He must be fine-tuned and be taught to improvise better– one thing which is able to by no means occur below Invoice’s heavy thumb.
Ryan Garcia = Adrien Broner?
Hey Paul,
Very long time fan of your columns on Struggle Hype. I simply respect how sincere you’re about what you see, no b.s. simply taking issues for what they’re. My query for you is that have not we seen Ryan Garcia earlier than…within the type of Adrien Broner?This is not me hating on both of them, I really like each of them for what they carry to boxing. They’re at all times entertaining, and watching them win or lose is a curler coaster journey the entire struggle. Nonetheless, they’re what they’re. Loud mouths, gifted, entertaining, goofy, type of bizarre, and in the end individuals you realize you could’t take significantly. And, they do not even take themselves significantly which is why, in Adrien Broner’s case anyway as of proper now, they’re/will turn out to be excessive finish gate keepers. All the time across the prime of no matter weight class they’re in, however by no means the person.I am curious in case you see the parallels as nicely?Take it simple man, I respect the work.
– Cory Inexperienced
Hey Cory.
Thanks for the sort phrases.
That’s a very sensible comparison– Broner and Garcia. There are loads of similarities. Broner additionally “bought massive” together with his social media content material earlier than getting massive with any ring work. It may be mentioned that neither has taken their coaching significantly of their bodily primes. And their physique of labor as boxers can be comparatively uneven, particularly in relation to their pure presents.
I see Garcia in for a very good, sound crash sooner or later. For me, it’s not a matter of “if” however “when.” And it’s going to be uglier than Broner’s as a result of plainly Garcia has a far bigger group of enablers and sure males round him, plus all that social media assist for the enablers in cyber house.
However, undoubtedly, good name with the comparability.
Garcia vs Haney: The Blueprint for Boxing to Develop
Hello, Magno!!
As at all times, wishing you and your loved ones the perfect.
Let me begin by congratulating you in your evaluation of the Haney vs Garcia struggle. One of many only a few that gave Ryan a shot based mostly on types. I simply didn’t see it that means, I noticed it aggressive within the first 6 rounds, then Haney cruising to a snug choice. Then once more, for this reason I really like boxing, something can occur. I’ve at all times given credit score to Ryan and I believe we must always all do, for daring to be nice and be keen to face the perfect on the market, despite the fact that he’s very flawed and within the present enterprise, it is vitally simple to cherry decide and make your cash, particularly you probably have drawing energy. If gifted and expert boxers dare to face one another of their prime, the cash will comply with. Ryan has taken a stand towards the promoters and the present enterprise of boxing and he is without doubt one of the prime three attracts within the US.
I disagree with the evaluation that in case you don’t like what you’re getting as a pay-per-view simply don’t purchase it, as a result of in actuality, aside from the massive massive fights, the followers won’t purchase it, however will steal the struggle. Sadly, I believe the pattern will improve with announcement of so many PPV fights in 2024. The media and the followers should ship the message that PPV ought to solely be for large occasions, to not subsidize the promoters and or the networks. If not, then in case you don’t prefer it don’t purchase it may be used to justify about every thing that’s hurting boxing, Canelo doesn’t struggle Benavidez then don’t purchase his fights, unhealthy judging, don’t purchase the fights, and so forth. Hope Ryan motivates different generational abilities to do the identical.
– Benjamin from PR
Hey Benjamin.
I agree with what you’ve said– in idea. There’s additionally one thing to be mentioned for younger fighters competing at a degree relative to their present ability degree. Ryan was out of his league towards Tank, and it confirmed. Clipping Haney, in the meantime, mentioned nearly as a lot about Haney because it did about Ryan. I’d be fantastic with Ryan constructing to his present degree, however that’s his name. IMO, it’s not a very good profession alternative for a not-elite fighter to be competing towards elites if his purpose is to have a long-term profession.
As for the PPV stuff. I believe the one means for followers to point out their displeasure with a product is by not buying it. It’s the identical with any group of customers. Lack of gross sales interprets to “we should change” to firms. What different means is there for customers to pressure change? What incentive would there be for a corporation to alter, in the event that they didn’t worry a shopper backlash? The issue is that too many followers ARE keen to pay for stuff that ought to be free. That offers promoters a inexperienced gentle to maintain charging for every thing.
Harvey Dock
How unhealthy was that ref [for Garcia-Haney, Harvey Dock] and the way unhealthy are individuals hyping these fighters appearing like they’re a Pernell Whitaker a Chavez a Camacho? I can go on and on. What do suppose? Horrible, horrible ref. Ought to put him below investigation. He was unhealthy…second knockdown an excessive amount of… may have counted him out.
– AF
Hey AF.
Yeah, the struggle was thrilling, however it was additionally a sloppy mess.
Harvey Dock is normally a very good referee. He had a foul night time. Might there have been some “this isn’t purported to be taking place” bias happening. Perhaps. It certain did seem like he was giving Devin each likelihood to get well. However that would simply be our notion, watching the struggle from a distance, excited in regards to the flip of occasions, and desperate to have the fighters get again to the motion. I’m keen to chop him some slack for this one.
Received a query (or hate mail) for Magno’s Bulging Mail Sack? The very best of the perfect will get included within the weekly mailbag phase proper right here at FightHype. Ship your stuff right here: paulmagno@theboxingtribune.com.
